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Old 12-19-2008, 04:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default how to manage hyper-v from XP

Hello

what is the best way to manage hyper-v from a xp computer ? i can't find
any install of the console (only for vista sp1 & W2K8 server) for xp...

another question, where should i set up the system center 2008, can i
install it on my hyper-v server or should i install it on a dedicated one ?

Thks
fafa
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
Ryan Sokolowski [MVP]
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Install SCVMM on a separate system, not your managed Hyper-V server(s). No
Hyper-V Manager available for XP (AFAIK).

Hope this helps,
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"fafa" <fadhelbb@free.Fr> wrote in message
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> Hello
>
> what is the best way to manage hyper-v from a xp computer ? i can't find
> any install of the console (only for vista sp1 & W2K8 server) for xp...
>
> another question, where should i set up the system center 2008, can i
> install it on my hyper-v server or should i install it on a dedicated one
> ?
>
> Thks
> fafa


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Old 12-19-2008, 04:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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"fafa" <fadhelbb@free.Fr> wrote in message
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> Hello
>
> what is the best way to manage hyper-v from a xp computer ? i can't find
> any install of the console (only for vista sp1 & W2K8 server) for xp...
>
> another question, where should i set up the system center 2008, can i
> install it on my hyper-v server or should i install it on a dedicated one
> ?
>
> Thks
> fafa


Open an RDP session to your System center VMM 2008 system that you are
hosting on another system (not one of your Hyper-V servers)
Alternatively update your admin desktop machine from the 9 year old OS you
now have to Windows Vista with SP1
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: how to manage hyper-v from XP

This is something I'd also like to have. A management console to control
Hyper-V from Windows XP workstation.
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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"Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> This is something I'd also like to have. A management console to control
> Hyper-V from Windows XP workstation.


Then your options are RDP to the SCVMM 2008 server or upgrade.
You will not get a management tool for an end off life OS (time to upgrade)

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Old 12-19-2008, 04:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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"Mike Brannigan" wrote:

> "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:180DBA74-3EA2-4379-925B-CFEE08A02B79@microsoft.com...
> > This is something I'd also like to have. A management console to control
> > Hyper-V from Windows XP workstation.

>
> Then your options are RDP to the SCVMM 2008 server or upgrade.
> You will not get a management tool for an end off life OS (time to upgrade)
>
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan
>


Reality is, that many still use XP and are not even planning on upgrading to
Vista. XP might soon be EOL as far as premium support goes, but it wasn't
when Hyper-V RTM was released.

What about a situation where there is no SCVMM, and no possibility of a
local GUI for management. Like Hyper-V Server 2008? It seems the only option
is to just go for Vmware/Xen, as they offer management tools for XP too.

I am just talking theoretically, I personally don't have this problem, but I
can see why this might be a problem for many.
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
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One solution would be an installable package of hyper-v manager on hyper-v
server 2008 or server 2008 core. Does anyone know if there are any plans for
a local admin tool?
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:46 AM   #8 (permalink)
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"Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> One solution would be an installable package of hyper-v manager on hyper-v
> server 2008 or server 2008 core. Does anyone know if there are any plans
> for
> a local admin tool?


There would be no point in installing a Hyper-V manager on Core or Hyper-V
Server as there is no GUI (one of the whole points of core).
You HAVE to use the remote tools to manage these effectively. So sorry but
you need to either access a Serve 2008 (full install system) in admin mode
and have the tools installed there or get off your 9 year old OS .
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"Mike Brannigan" wrote:

> "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ED03B753-6D95-4495-AEB2-8DD67D69B837@microsoft.com...
> > One solution would be an installable package of hyper-v manager on hyper-v
> > server 2008 or server 2008 core. Does anyone know if there are any plans
> > for
> > a local admin tool?

>
> There would be no point in installing a Hyper-V manager on Core or Hyper-V
> Server as there is no GUI (one of the whole points of core).
> You HAVE to use the remote tools to manage these effectively. So sorry but
> you need to either access a Serve 2008 (full install system) in admin mode
> and have the tools installed there or get off your 9 year old OS .
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan
>


Well, there is enough GUI for task manager / notepad / cmd / etc to run, and
for example IBM ServeRAID Manager GUI runs just fine on a core install too.
So there is no reason why some other tool couldn't tool.

PS. XP is "only" 6 years old, not 9. And you have to realize many will skip
Vista, that is a fact.

I personally have Vista and Hyper-V Server 2008 at home and SCVMM at work,
so I don't have this problem. But still I can see why many would like to be
able to control it without Vista or full install of 2008, and it is an
interesting topic to discuss (that's why I joined this discussion).
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
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"Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Mike Brannigan" wrote:
>
>> "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ED03B753-6D95-4495-AEB2-8DD67D69B837@microsoft.com...
>> > One solution would be an installable package of hyper-v manager on
>> > hyper-v
>> > server 2008 or server 2008 core. Does anyone know if there are any
>> > plans
>> > for
>> > a local admin tool?

>>
>> There would be no point in installing a Hyper-V manager on Core or
>> Hyper-V
>> Server as there is no GUI (one of the whole points of core).
>> You HAVE to use the remote tools to manage these effectively. So sorry
>> but
>> you need to either access a Serve 2008 (full install system) in admin
>> mode
>> and have the tools installed there or get off your 9 year old OS .
>> --
>>
>> Mike Brannigan
>>

>
> Well, there is enough GUI for task manager / notepad / cmd / etc to run,
> and
> for example IBM ServeRAID Manager GUI runs just fine on a core install
> too.
> So there is no reason why some other tool couldn't tool.
>
> PS. XP is "only" 6 years old, not 9. And you have to realize many will
> skip
> Vista, that is a fact.
>
> I personally have Vista and Hyper-V Server 2008 at home and SCVMM at work,
> so I don't have this problem. But still I can see why many would like to
> be
> able to control it without Vista or full install of 2008, and it is an
> interesting topic to discuss (that's why I joined this discussion).


It may be of interest, but it will not happen!


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