Aldo Elam Majiah

http://www.utharam.com/ --> Hyper-V Management Console for XP

> On Friday, December 12, 2008 11:41 AM fafa wrote:

> Hello
>
> what is the best way to manage hyper-v from a xp computer ? i can't find
> any install of the console (only for vista sp1 & W2K8 server) for xp...
>
> another question, where should i set up the system center 2008, can i
> install it on my hyper-v server or should i install it on a dedicated one ?
>
> Thks
> fafa


>> On Monday, December 15, 2008 2:51 PM Ryan Sokolowski [MVP] wrote:

>> Install SCVMM on a separate system, not your managed Hyper-V server(s). No
>> Hyper-V Manager available for XP (AFAIK).
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> --Ryan
>>
>> --
>> Ryan Sokolowski
>> MVP - Clustering
>> MCT, MCITP x3, MCTS x7, MCSE x2, CCNA, CCDA, BCFP
>>
>>
>> "fafa" <fadhelbb@free.Fr> wrote in message
>> news:%23ttNIiHXJHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...


>>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:19 AM Mike Brannigan wrote:

>>> "fafa" <fadhelbb@free.Fr> wrote in message
>>> news:%23ttNIiHXJHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Open an RDP session to your System center VMM 2008 system that you are
>>> hosting on another system (not one of your Hyper-V servers)
>>> Alternatively update your admin desktop machine from the 9 year old OS you
>>> now have to Windows Vista with SP1
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Brannigan


>>>> On Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:58 PM Kimps wrote:

>>>> This is something I'd also like to have. A management console to control
>>>> Hyper-V from Windows XP workstation.


>>>>> On Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:18 PM Mike Brannigan wrote:

>>>>> Then your options are RDP to the SCVMM 2008 server or upgrade.
>>>>> You will not get a management tool for an end off life OS (time to upgrade)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Brannigan


>>>>>> On Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:51 AM Kimps wrote:

>>>>>> "Mike Brannigan" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reality is, that many still use XP and are not even planning on upgrading to
>>>>>> Vista. XP might soon be EOL as far as premium support goes, but it wasn't
>>>>>> when Hyper-V RTM was released.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about a situation where there is no SCVMM, and no possibility of a
>>>>>> local GUI for management. Like Hyper-V Server 2008? It seems the only option
>>>>>> is to just go for Vmware/Xen, as they offer management tools for XP too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am just talking theoretically, I personally don't have this problem, but I
>>>>>> can see why this might be a problem for many.


>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:33 AM Kimps wrote:

>>>>>>> One solution would be an installable package of hyper-v manager on hyper-v
>>>>>>> server 2008 or server 2008 core. Does anyone know if there are any plans for
>>>>>>> a local admin tool?


>>>>>>>> On Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:32 AM Mike Brannigan wrote:

>>>>>>>> "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:ED03B753-6D95-4495-AEB2-8DD67D69B837@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There would be no point in installing a Hyper-V manager on Core or Hyper-V
>>>>>>>> Server as there is no GUI (one of the whole points of core).
>>>>>>>> You HAVE to use the remote tools to manage these effectively. So sorry but
>>>>>>>> you need to either access a Serve 2008 (full install system) in admin mode
>>>>>>>> and have the tools installed there or get off your 9 year old OS .
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike Brannigan


>>>>>>>>> On Friday, December 19, 2008 2:15 PM Kimps wrote:

>>>>>>>>> "Mike Brannigan" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, there is enough GUI for task manager / notepad / cmd / etc to run, and
>>>>>>>>> for example IBM ServeRAID Manager GUI runs just fine on a core install too.
>>>>>>>>> So there is no reason why some other tool couldn't tool.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PS. XP is "only" 6 years old, not 9. And you have to realize many will skip
>>>>>>>>> Vista, that is a fact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I personally have Vista and Hyper-V Server 2008 at home and SCVMM at work,
>>>>>>>>> so I don't have this problem. But still I can see why many would like to be
>>>>>>>>> able to control it without Vista or full install of 2008, and it is an
>>>>>>>>> interesting topic to discuss (that's why I joined this discussion).


>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, December 19, 2008 7:33 PM Bill Grant wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> It may be of interest, but it will not happen!


>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 05, 2009 12:06 PM Mike Brannigan wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> "Kimpsu" <Kimpsu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:3B4F9D00-77FC-40F4-A897-4E44FE0B73EA@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well other then the ability to run a couple of system tools on the system
>>>>>>>>>>> does not mean that the whole core model should be ruined by your desire to
>>>>>>>>>>> have a local admin tool on an OS designed by default to be administered
>>>>>>>>>>> remotely.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> XP was release August 24th 2001 with genrela publoic avaialbitly on October
>>>>>>>>>>> 25th 2001, so is heading towards 8 years old this summr and in technoillygy
>>>>>>>>>>> term is older with the deveip,mneg work ending long beofre the Aug 24th 01
>>>>>>>>>>> RTM. Either way you are using an old OS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Brannigan


>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 05, 2009 6:37 PM Bill Grant wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> The main problem is that XP just does not have the necessary bits in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> OS to run the Hyper-V MMC. Even RTM Vista does not. You need SP1.


>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:04 AM Mike Brannigan wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23hu2P64bJHA.5976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which not be a problem for anyone wanting to run the modern server platforms
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Microsoft. There is really no point in Kimpsu continuing to badger
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about wanting an admin tool on XP when there are perfectly good options such
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as running your admin machine on Vista SP1, or using a RDP session to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Server 2008 machine with the admin tools installed (or run a Vista VM on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> admin workstation using something like Virtual PC etc - or switch to Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SP1 and if he has legacy apps that require XP then run those on a VM).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since to manage a Server 2008 environment remotely you need to be using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RSAT tools anyway and they require Vista SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This all seems like a fairly pointless discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Brannigan


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